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MakotoLee
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• 3/24/2014

Hina's past and where the episode 1 Hina went

I question the trivia about Hina. It seems to say that she had forgotten about the whole experience and was deaged. The problem is that this doesn't fit all the things in the story. First, in episode 1, Hina tells Aoba that he told her that he was going to be attacked which he did in episode 8. So the trivia can fit with that but it doesn't explain why Aoba has his memories and she doesn't. I think that actually, she is a war orphan who lost her parents in a battle but somehow lost her memories during that battle. The Hina from episode 1 has returned to the time she left from. So she went farther into the future than Aoba did after going through the portal. Any thoughts?

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Huaweikillyou
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MakotoLee
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• 3/24/2014

No. Remember how Hina was wearing "ragged clothes" and that they were the same clothes as her adult self when she rescued Aoba? Here what probably happened:

Saves Aoba --> Time warp turns her into a child --> grows up into Pilot ---> Enters drugged state --> Goes through time portal ---> Saves Aoba --> repeat

In a sense it is a non stop loop.

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• 3/24/2014

I hope at the end of the series, or atleast towards it, this timeloop is diverted. But they would further prove that time is "linear" in this series.

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• 3/25/2014
JacksonLee wrote:
No. Remember how Hina was wearing "ragged clothes" and that they were the same clothes as her adult self when she rescued Aoba? Here what probably happened:

Saves Aoba --> Time warp turns her into a child --> grows up into Pilot ---> Enters drugged state --> Goes through time portal ---> Saves Aoba --> repeat

In a sense it is a non stop loop.

Actually, if you want visually base it on the clothes, it's not the same. Orphan Hina had a lighter vest than Yumihara Hina... but the skirt portion is main thing. Yumihara Hina had a skirt that was darker than her vest, while orphan Hina's skirt was much lighter than her vest.

Not to mention, orphan Hina's clothes weren't baggy at all, as I'm sure a 10 year age difference would show in how she fit her clothes.

If you want to claim that the traveling through time changed her clothes... look at Watase, his clothes still matched before and after leaping through time.

In any case, it's not improbable that a middle schooler would have a similar uniform in "2078" as a high schooler in 2014.

All this is supposition until the anime tells us what they want to tell us.

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• 3/26/2014

If Hina is indeed travelled to future in deformed condition, then its a disaster. That makes a neverending cycle which she has to suffer again and again.

Spoilers here, if the environment is match, then the time vortex (Chrono vortex huh...) will open up in this time. Bizon will be sucked in E13.  However the successor of Luxon and Bradyon will go like a flash.

Either case, it won't be a good thing if Buddy Complex end at E13, because from past experience, Sunrise sucks at short term mecha animes, at least 20+ episode is needed for the whole content to come out perfectly. It would be superb if it is standard 50 episode like other past successful mechas.

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• 3/26/2014
JacksonLee wrote:
No. Remember how Hina was wearing "ragged clothes" and that they were the same clothes as her adult self when she rescued Aoba? Here what probably happened:

Saves Aoba --> Time warp turns her into a child --> grows up into Pilot ---> Enters drugged state --> Goes through time portal ---> Saves Aoba --> repeat

In a sense it is a non stop loop.



I agree. Imho there is no other logic option for the story, if it ends after 13 episodes with no 2nd season. There is just not enough time to  embellish an end, which explaines everything about the time loop/travel down to the last detail. I'm afraid, that the end will be told to "hasty", because they spend too much time in the past episodes with telling unnessesary minor matters.

Don't get me wrong. The anime isn't bad, but i for one don't need a 2nd season.


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• 3/27/2014
i am wondering what happened that hina has the resolve to kill her childhood friend bizon.
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• 4/2/2014

I think it was more trying to defend Aoba from Bizon. If she had the resolve to kill Bizon, she would of finished her downed opponent but instead left him there defeated. Bizon tried to commit suicide and kill Aoba who she continued to protect. She then did what was necessary to protect Aoba and Bizon ended up killing himself or not. Of course, this is referring to the time loop and not after the time loop.

Anyways, I'm happy that there is a second season as this season felt more like a prologue to a book or the first chapter. It more or less explains why Aoba is there, why Hina switched sides, etc. It also makes you wonder what goals Aoba will have after the first season.

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• 5/21/2014
JacksonLee wrote:
No. Remember how Hina was wearing "ragged clothes" and that they were the same clothes as her adult self when she rescued Aoba? Here what probably happened:

Saves Aoba --> Time warp turns her into a child --> grows up into Pilot ---> Enters drugged state --> Goes through time portal ---> Saves Aoba --> repeat

In a sense it is a non stop loop.

Here that thing, She saves Aoba right but how did they met at first before all this happened. If we say that either Hina went to the past or Aoba goes to the future, how did that happen when it can be said to create a 'time tunnel' a large beam must be fired and something must be strong enough to block it. and if so, what created it at the first place if Aoba (a man from 2014) did not met Hina ( a girl from 2088) cause they only and I mean ONLY met because of the 'time tunnel'. where ever there is an end, there is always a start. And for what you said you only stated the middle and end but I know that it is based on the anime.

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• 9/24/2014
Huaweikillyou wrote:
JacksonLee wrote:
No. Remember how Hina was wearing "ragged clothes" and that they were the same clothes as her adult self when she rescued Aoba? Here what probably happened:

Saves Aoba --> Time warp turns her into a child --> grows up into Pilot ---> Enters drugged state --> Goes through time portal ---> Saves Aoba --> repeat

In a sense it is a non stop loop.

Here that thing, She saves Aoba right but how did they met at first before all this happened. If we say that either Hina went to the past or Aoba goes to the future, how did that happen when it can be said to create a 'time tunnel' a large beam must be fired and something must be strong enough to block it. and if so, what created it at the first place if Aoba (a man from 2014) did not met Hina ( a girl from 2088) cause they only and I mean ONLY met because of the 'time tunnel'. where ever there is an end, there is always a start. And for what you said you only stated the middle and end but I know that it is based on the anime.

i agree with that one... Thats the flaw of every time travelling stories. (Sorry terminator you are also a flaw in my own words) Here's the thing, time travelling triggers my so called unexplained loops. Like in the story of terminator( sorry guys it is much easyier to use terminator than the BC) the mother of john connor is saved by his bestfriend which he send to save his mother from t-800 (Astalavista) which turned out to be his father. Best friend and his father that he send... The one thing that never been answered by this story is that what happend BEFORE the time traveling occure which they told us that john connar send his father in the past. The confusing part is that where the hell the first john connar came or who trigger the first loop.. unlike other timetravel story that they got back (the one who came in the whole together) and still got the whole thing (memories) they got and still remembers.. the another thing im curious about is that the exit holes of the time warp/vortex/loop. Hina Ryazan (from the future) -> save aoba in 2014 -> exit as the War orphan 10 years before the arrival of aoba afterall they are in the same mech i think they should come in and out together. here's the other thing would it be possible that the (2078) orphan hina wasn't actually an orphan? and possibly that the time travel just deage her and randomly shoots where anywhere and his forster father just found her. the one i based is that the town where totally clear of people (possible evacuation) and it seems that his foster father is alone that time wandering around checking things out after an operation done (because if there is still an operation its not just one person checking not wandering; a whole team and still those noise from tanks, foot infantry or mechs... 

lol.. another thing if i were a crew of a warship/plane (things that you are a group of people traveling the loop. and got killed in the past it will mess everything up. why? jan 28 1993 is my birthdate if i travel back in the past let say ww2 and kick (Kick as in kick) the ass of hitler and i was killed by the guards i will be born: 1993 Died: 1943 that will mess up everyting. (based on anime :zipang) the other time loop movie i watch is final countdown which the one person from the present leave in the past to marry a woman in the past then after the whole uss nimitz crew went back and as they arrived they saw the old fellow that left behind. but still they got their memories on them. -I4L 


P.S. The clothes of Hina should be not ragged rather it is like how the 2014 dress status. 

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